so is PF1 not coming to HLO? have you tried polling your customers?
 

I've been lurking around for some time trying to find answers as to when Pathfinder (not 2) will be coming to HeroLab Online. Haven't seen anything indicating any kind of timeframe.

I know there were business reasons for going wtih PF2 instead of PF1 initially, but I'm wondering if any kind of polling of us customers was done to factor into that. Many people have invested hundreds and hundreds of dollars into PF1 and have no intention of abandoning that investment. A good amount of that investment has been into PF1 on HeroLab.

I was over the top excited to hear about HLO, and have been extremely disappointed to hear that the folks who have likely been the biggest financial investors in HeroLab are the ones being put at the back of the line for the new product.

So with that said (and at the understood risk of making a fool of myself here) I'd like to propose a poll. For those who have invested money on HeroLab, please select in the poll which game system you would like to see the most activity on for HeroLab Online. For those who haven't spent money on HeroLab, please comment on which Game System would most likely get you to invest in HeroLab Online.

It's been stated multiple times that PF1 is planned for HLO, but it is a future endeavor.

Here is 1 such example: http://forums.wolflair.com/showthrea...hfinder&page=5

If you search the word Pathfinder you will find several more threads.

To add to this there will most likely be a fee to transfer any purchased PF1 content from HLC to HLO so you do not have to repurchase all the content again.

but WHEN?!

When they have capacity to do so. They would have been daft to not do pf2.

Daft, plunk?

I am in no hurry to move my PF1 stuff over to HLO; I'm perfectly happy to wait until the GM features and User file support are ready.

PF1 would have been much, much harder to start with than PF2. Starting with just a core book means they can get something out much faster than the pre-planning needed for all of PF1's content, which means better responsiveness from their dev team and a generally stronger showing as they move past only a single game system.

;)

Just my 2 cents. If HLC had Starfinder I would have purchased it instead (it would save the waiting headache for GM features in HLO and help me prep my new game). But it doesn't, and so I'll wait for the potential of what it should be (Hopefully that wait isn't too much longer though).

Oh is that Aussie haha. Daft is another word for stupid, moronic, idiotic, etc.

I think EightBitz was just double punning your name and the band. (Of course, by explaining it I've ruined the joke. :)

I too am waiting for word on this one.
Our group has decided to stick with PF1 for the time being - we have a lot of AP's that we havent played yet.

for us it is the sharing of character sheets and party treasure type stuff which we would use. Hopefully once CM is released we will see some traction.

Nah, I think it is a pun on the group name Daft Punk. Someone just couldn't resist.

As to the original post: Rob initially announced that Pathfinder would be the first system made available for HLO after they had Starfinder and the initial set of features implemented and stable to their liking. I believe this is still the plan and that the only reason another system was added first is that Paizo sprang Playtest on them.

With HLO's current state of development, and especially with it's policy of secondary licensing, i.e. none, I have absolutely no desire to abandon the desktop and Ipad apps for it. Let them and Paizo get their acts together on PF2 and Starfinder first.

I was in the same camp, until my Ipad died (and it costs more to fix than replace).... It would be very nice to be able to have Herolab on something else...as I can buy a Android tablet (and as far as I know there is nothing even remotely close to HL on Android) cheaper than I can an Ipad.

Right now I am using the Desktop version on a Surface Pro - while its ok, its certainly not as user friendly.

The only other alternative for me is to go back to Pen and Paper (shudders)....:D

Considering how long Realm Works has been in development, I don't think anyone has to worry about compatibility until 2030 or so...:D

We need to get other useful features online before we can bring PF across, but we do intend to have it online in the future.

Ultimately, PF1 is still available on HLC with pretty amazing functionality. LW have guaranteed us that when it lands on HLO, we will be able to migrate across for no extra cost. In the meantime, there is massive activity with PF2 playtest which a lot of us need support for.

As for slating RW, well I personally have yet to pay any subscription fee and have now run 6 campaigns using the software, which is extremely useful. Have patience and I am sure that eventually all will come to pass.....

I'm fairly sure that LWD have stated that there will be a one-off fixed transfer fee to enable your already-purchased data within HLO.

Farling is correct, there will be a one-time fee of about $20 to migrate your content from Hero Lab over to Hero Lab Online.

Rone is correct. It is also important to note that when your content is replicated in HLO it will still be available in the Classic version of the software. So you won't lose what you previously owned. :)

Out of curiosity, after the transfer, if we buy a new PF1 package, will it apply only to HLC, only to HLO, or to both?

My current understanding is it will apply to both. :)

Apologies, I meant that their would be no extra charge for the content already owned (after the initial fee all other content will transfer).

This is correct yes?

There is no scaling rent based on the amount of stuff that you purchased. After each one-off fee to purchase a new data package (on both HLC and HLO), there is only the single flat fee for continued access to the service.

I'd rather use HLC for Starfinder. The "enhancements" which aren't even finished yet are of no interest to me. I need exactly what HLC can do, just doing it for Starfinder.

A fee to transfer what you already purchased? If the fee is not extremely small I expect many to stick with CHL.

They originally said it would be about $20 and include 6 months of server access. Not sure if this is correct anymore but 6 months of access will cost about $15 so net $5. They haven't started charging for access yet either.

The $20 transfer fee is separate from the cost to buy HLO in the first place, and it is buying HLO which provides 6 months access, not the transfer fee.

A quote from BJ:

Gratified that someone got it.

They need to get PF2 and Starfinder fully functional before they think about adding other systems.

Besides, I'm not ready to give up on my desktop or Ipad apps yet. Without allowances for custom content PF1 on HLO would be useless to me.

I'm not a real big fan of online only software. It seems whenever you need it, it's not accessible or down for maintenance. I've been playing in a PF2 game since the book came out and finally bit the bullet today and bought PF2 Online. Go to create a character and 20 minutes in server goes down for maintenance! I think someone is telling me something...