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gaffneyks
February 6th, 2017, 07:44 PM
Well darn.

That's it? Focus on Pathfinder as usual. Nothing for 5th edition. You initial release is Pathfinder and some images?

$5 for 10 images.........glad we waited thru all the delays for that!

Please tell us you are not going to focus on just one game system. Please tell us the initial release is more than that news release stated. I mean come on you have been talking about the content market for a long time, thru multiple Gen Cons and that's all the content you have for the Big release? And you totally ignore multiple game systems other than some overpriced images?

And why make the 5th edition people wait for the import/export if they weren't even going to have anything in the content market they could purchase?

All the delays for this and even the pathfinder fans who actually get content are going to be complaining because they have to purchase the PDF.

I am not really as excited about the Content Market as I was in August when it was just around the corner. Now I see that you don't have all that much Ready Made Content and not from some of the Big Names in the industry as stated on your website.

I am beginning to think that you might not even have WOTC on board and if I want to run a Forgotten Realms campaign i will have to enter it all myself or just give up on using Realm Works.

the_redbeard
February 6th, 2017, 08:06 PM
While I share your general disappointment, I doubt that this is on Lone Wolf.

They want their product to succeed and have nothing to gain by withholding 5e content. Though not having the 5e SRD available is odd.

You'll note that even with the new OGL and the SRD being released, there is no full 5e purchase available for Herolab. Only the SRD is available for purchase. WotC hasn't released PDFs either. Pirated pdfs are out there, of course.

Yeah, you can get a license for 5e content for Fantasy Grounds, but it will cost you more than what you pay for the printed books. It's crazy.

I think WotC has a pretty messed up plan for digital content.

So let's do something POSITIVE about this.

Monthly or more frequently, WotC has been releasing playtest material (http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/unearthed-arcana/sorcerer) and releasing a survey on previous material (http://sgiz.mobi/s3/88d00d488e70)

WotC designers, Mearls and Crawford, claim that they read those surveys. Tell them politely that you would like to purchase 5e in an electronic form other than Fantasy Grounds. I mention pdf and Realm Works by name.

daplunk
February 6th, 2017, 08:21 PM
Every survey I fill in for WOTC has Hero Lab and Realm Works in it... I occasionally even tag the designers in Twitter tweets telling them where I want to buy my material ;)

Now if it does happen, I have no expectations that content will be cheap. I expect it to be more than the books which will be disappointing given I own them all. But I actively stopped buying books in the hope that WOTC would come to the table eventually. I hope the packs will be less than $100AUS for the core books. It's alot, i just don't see it being much cheaper given we already pay $70ish for core books from local stores.

Now lets say WOTC are at the table... LW won't be able to talk to that until a date in the project plan where it is acceptable to do that. It will be in a contract.

But still... I was personally hoping for 3rd party love. There is some great 5e 3rd party content out there.

But then again... if I was Paizo... I would have demanded that the initial advertisements focus on Pathfinder. I would have made them put that in the contract in order to sign me up.

So you see, we have no idea what is going on. Perhaps there's reason to be disappointed or perhaps it's a political nightmare that we can't hear about yet.

Either way I'm of the school that communication is key to success but understand the political landscape in the business world that often gets in the way.

kbs666
February 7th, 2017, 04:09 AM
I would think LWD would have 5e material if they could.

I will point out that most any PF module can be converted to 5e relatively easily. Assuming a well formatted module in RW it shouldn't be too hard to go through and find all the skill checks, saving throws, NPC's and monsters and convert them to 5e.

gaffneyks
February 7th, 2017, 06:12 AM
I would think LWD would have 5e material if they could.

I will point out that most any PF module can be converted to 5e relatively easily. Assuming a well formatted module in RW it shouldn't be too hard to go through and find all the skill checks, saving throws, NPC's and monsters and convert them to 5e.

Isn't the whole point of the Content Market "READY MADE CONTENT"? Why would I buy a product I don't want just to use Realm Works and then have to go to the trouble of changing the product?

LWD needs to realize that even though the base Realm Works product does not compete with the Virtual Tabletops . The content market sure does. And if Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds can come to an agreement with WOTC. Then it would be in LWD best interest to do so also, or lose business. Its not like they did not have a long time to make a deal with WOTC since it has taken so long for them to go live.

I already entered everything I need for LMOP into Realm Works, but I needed the maps. Once I went out and purchased the maps from Mike Schley for $10 I saw that the whole adventure was for sale on Fantasy Grounds and Roll20 for $20. And it got me thinking, LMOP was just for the first 5 levels. Do I really want to do this all over to add Princes of the Apocalypse to Realm Works?

Why did i take the time to enter this in Realm Works when for $10 more I could have just purchased the whole adventure? Now granted I would have to purchase the virtual tabletop software and get everyone to agree to stop using miniatures and use the virtual tabletop. But still.

I had hoped the content market would solve this problem for me, it appears that LWD has decided to focus on Paizo products, hence it has not solved my problem and I am disappointed. Thus my above post.

meek75
February 7th, 2017, 06:25 AM
Isn't the whole point of the Content Market "READY MADE CONTENT"? Why would I buy a product I don't want just to use Realm Works and then have to go to the trouble of changing the product?


I already said this in another forum, but it bears repeating -- I would absolutely by a system neutral module and add in the mechanical bits. If the story is solid and the realm is well organized I'm sold. No, I don't want to pay the high price for a PF module and then still need to change it. However, a more affordable system neutral offering would be very welcome.

kbs666
February 7th, 2017, 06:55 AM
Isn't the whole point of the Content Market "READY MADE CONTENT"? Why would I buy a product I don't want just to use Realm Works and then have to go to the trouble of changing the product?

LWD needs to realize that even though the base Realm Works product does not compete with the Virtual Tabletops . The content market sure does. And if Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds can come to an agreement with WOTC. Then it would be in LWD best interest to do so also, or lose business. Its not like they did not have a long time to make a deal with WOTC since it has taken so long for them to go live.

I already entered everything I need for LMOP into Realm Works, but I needed the maps. Once I went out and purchased the maps from Mike Schley for $10 I saw that the whole adventure was for sale on Fantasy Grounds and Roll20 for $20. And it got me thinking, LMOP was just for the first 5 levels. Do I really want to do this all over to add Princes of the Apocalypse to Realm Works?

Why did i take the time to enter this in Realm Works when for $10 more I could have just purchased the whole adventure? Now granted I would have to purchase the virtual tabletop software and get everyone to agree to stop using miniatures and use the virtual tabletop. But still.

I had hoped the content market would solve this problem for me, it appears that LWD has decided to focus on Paizo products, hence it has not solved my problem and I am disappointed. Thus my above post.
You need to consider that this could very well be a WotC issue not a LWD one. I doubt LWD isn't doing everything possible to bring 5e to both HL and RW.

Gwydion
February 7th, 2017, 07:01 AM
Isn't the whole point of the Content Market "READY MADE CONTENT"? Why would I buy a product I don't want just to use Realm Works and then have to go to the trouble of changing the product?

LWD needs to realize that even though the base Realm Works product does not compete with the Virtual Tabletops . The content market sure does. And if Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds can come to an agreement with WOTC. Then it would be in LWD best interest to do so also, or lose business. Its not like they did not have a long time to make a deal with WOTC since it has taken so long for them to go live.

I already entered everything I need for LMOP into Realm Works, but I needed the maps. Once I went out and purchased the maps from Mike Schley for $10 I saw that the whole adventure was for sale on Fantasy Grounds and Roll20 for $20. And it got me thinking, LMOP was just for the first 5 levels. Do I really want to do this all over to add Princes of the Apocalypse to Realm Works?

Why did i take the time to enter this in Realm Works when for $10 more I could have just purchased the whole adventure? Now granted I would have to purchase the virtual tabletop software and get everyone to agree to stop using miniatures and use the virtual tabletop. But still.

I had hoped the content market would solve this problem for me, it appears that LWD has decided to focus on Paizo products, hence it has not solved my problem and I am disappointed. Thus my above post.

I hear you on this and FYI, I actually own both Fantasy Grounds and Realmworks. I went a little crazy and I have POTA hard copy, I purchased the FG copy when it was on sale and I purchased the individual maps from Schley. I loaded everything manually into Realmworks. Ton of copying and pasting and uploading maps from my purchases from Schley. Works great as the players love the ability to look at everything when we are offline given this is such a long campaign. However, you all can do the math. It was a big investment for me for one campaign!

I really want to keep using realmworks for my larger campaigns in conjunction with fantasy grounds. Just need to think about the cost/benefit.

BJ
February 7th, 2017, 07:52 AM
Good morning everyone (or whatever time of day it is where you call home)!

We would love to be able to set all the rules for purchasing and content. But we can only do what we can within the constraints of our licensing agreements and team size.

We absolutely want to see more 5E in the Content Market. I publish and play 5E myself so I'm certainly keen on it, and I know everyone else is too! We will have 5E, it will just take a bit more time. As for official WOTC content, that may be a thing of the far future but brace yourselves for the cost if it is.

Our initial focus with 5E will be on third party publishers, and as someone said there is a LOT of awesome 3PP content out there!

You can absolutely help make 5E a higher priority for future waves of content! Do you know what type of 5E material you want? Go vote for it! Right now 5th Edition has only received 29% of votes for content. Don't forget to share the survey with other Realm Works friends so they have an opportunity to have their voice heard as well. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CVCC5XN

Gwydion
February 7th, 2017, 08:45 AM
Good morning everyone (or whatever time of day it is where you call home)!

We would love to be able to set all the rules for purchasing and content. But we can only do what we can within the constraints of our licensing agreements and team size.

We absolutely want to see more 5E in the Content Market. I publish and play 5E myself so I'm certainly keen on it, and I know everyone else is too! We will have 5E, it will just take a bit more time. As for official WOTC content, that may be a thing of the far future but brace yourselves for the cost if it is.

Our initial focus with 5E will be on third party publishers, and as someone said there is a LOT of awesome 3PP content out there!

You can absolutely help make 5E a higher priority for future waves of content! Do you know what type of 5E material you want? Go vote for it! Right now 5th Edition has only received 29% of votes for content. Don't forget to share the survey with other Realm Works friends so they have an opportunity to have their voice heard as well. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CVCC5XN

Thanks, BJ! Yep, I cast my vote early this morning. Appreciate you reaching out to us all to ask what we are most interested in.

BJ
February 7th, 2017, 09:07 AM
Thanks, BJ! Yep, I cast my vote early this morning. Appreciate you reaching out to us all to ask what we are most interested in.

Thank you for voting!

Jay_NOLA
February 7th, 2017, 09:45 AM
Are the images going to be just usable for Realm Works? Are they Royalty free ones? $5 for 10 images is high if they are not going to be Royalty free and usable only in Realm Works. You can go buy royalty free images for about that price or maybe a little bit more on several sites.

I don't play Pathfinder so the content market has nothing of interest to me currently.

Also, how are art/map packs going to be submitted to the Content Market?

daplunk
February 7th, 2017, 11:13 AM
This is the only reason I would buy the pictures... If they can't be reused in future commercial content I would sooner just cut and paste from Google...

Lkj
February 7th, 2017, 11:23 AM
. . . As for official WOTC content, that may be a thing of the far future but brace yourselves for the cost if it is . . .

So, the high cost wouldn't surprise me, given how other licensees have had to price the WotC data. But the 'may be a thing of the far future' is disappointing. Here's hoping you're being coy.

AD

P.S. And I did go and take the survey

Silveras
February 7th, 2017, 11:50 AM
This is the only reason I would buy the pictures... If they can't be reused in future commercial content I would sooner just cut and paste from Google...

Just like any content you purchase from the Content Market, I would expect that the rights for commercial use remain with the originator. Purchases would be for private use only. I would be very surprised if the right to use images in commercial products was included.

Farling
February 7th, 2017, 03:11 PM
This is the only reason I would buy the pictures... If they can't be reused in future commercial content I would sooner just cut and paste from Google...

Assuming that you can prove that all the pictures you cut and pasted from Google have given you permission to sell them ;-)

Mystic Lemur
February 7th, 2017, 03:36 PM
The reason she said "far future" wasn't to be coy. WotC very likely doesn't see this format as a priority for them. They have always been behind the times when it comes to digital distribution.

daplunk
February 7th, 2017, 03:54 PM
Assuming that you can prove that all the pictures you cut and pasted from Google have given you permission to sell them ;-)

Sorry my point here is, if they can't be used for commercial reasons I have no reason to buy them in the first place. If things I'm going to use personally I have Google.

The reason I would go out of my way to buy pictures is for me to use them in commercial products. Even if its just free content provided to the community.

I wouldn't use Google Pics in commercial products unless I knew they were in the public domain.

Lanmalchior
February 7th, 2017, 06:51 PM
I've been buying WOTC product since back when it was TSR and own hundreds of their books. I probably owned 85-90% of their product up through 3.5 and since we started gaming again I'm back in on buying all the 5th edition stuff.

That WOTC has not found a way to come in on this or done so in an affordable way is really disappointing. I'd gladly pay SRP on hard cover WOTC product I already own just to save myself the time and hassle of taking my own copies and entering them myself. I actually started to enter some stuff and stopped as I was hoping I could just pay $50 for a book and be done with it. If they aren't available right off I'll just go and putting it in myself and move on. If it comes out at a later date it stinks for LWD, but I'm not going to buy it if I've already put that time in. LWD loses out, WOTC loses out and I'm going to save money, but lose out on time.

I get that WOTC or any company needs to make money on the games they put out, but we are the engine that drives their business and supporting us helps them. If I'm running a game and a new player item comes out I know six copies of that item will be sold just because I'm running a game. We are the heart of what makes the whole industry money. When we are running games new miniatures, dice, paint, game books, dice bags, software, even music, etc. gets sold. In an age where our pen and paper experience is competing with console games that have tens of millions of dollars spent on them and Marvel is making amazingly eye catching content with great stories too, I'd hope we would get more love. The easier and more engaging we can make the experience the more players who will come to the table and stick around.

WOTC and others are you listening? We are the heart of the game, help us help you.

gaffneyks
February 7th, 2017, 08:21 PM
The reason she said "far future" wasn't to be coy. WotC very likely doesn't see this format as a priority for them. They have always been behind the times when it comes to digital distribution.

Which is strange as they seem to have totally embraced the Virtual Tabletop companies(or at least Fantasy Grounds and Roll20). It just seems strange and disappointing that they and LWD cannot come to an agreement. Of course LWD seems to embrace having someone else do the data entry part of their products(example Army Builder data files or Hero Lab for 5e community pack) maybe that was a sticking point.

I've been buying WOTC product since back when it was TSR and own hundreds of their books. I probably owned 85-90% of their product up through 3.5 and since we started gaming again I'm back in on buying all the 5th edition stuff.

That WOTC has not found a way to come in on this or done so in an affordable way is really disappointing. I'd gladly pay SRP on hard cover WOTC product I already own just to save myself the time and hassle of taking my own copies and entering them myself. I actually started to enter some stuff and stopped as I was hoping I could just pay $50 for a book and be done with it. If they aren't available right off I'll just go and putting it in myself and move on. If it comes out at a later date it stinks for LWD, but I'm not going to buy it if I've already put that time in. LWD loses out, WOTC loses out and I'm going to save money, but lose out on time.



Pretty much same for me. Both groups I DM have players that prefer to play in the Forgotten Realms so i will either switch to another product like a VTT and move away for using Realm Works for the games I DM or enter the info myself into Realm Works and never use the content market. Either way Content Market is a disappointment for me even before it goes live. Pretty sad.

daplunk
February 7th, 2017, 10:40 PM
We will have 5E, it will just take a bit more time. As for official WOTC content, that may be a thing of the far future but brace yourselves for the cost if it is.

The cost is to be expected.

There might only be 30% market share according to the survey results but 5e is the fantasy rpg beast in the market currently and I would be shocked if there is not a plan to tap into that. According to the The Orr Group Industry Report: Q1 2016 D&D 5e accounts for 35.44% of games being played on Roll20. Pathfinder is trailing behind that with 18.77%.

I won't be surprised, it wont shock me... it will disappoint me.

I'd love to know if there is a difference between the commercial content and our content. Like seriously... why can't we give you the SRD? This would take away the data load requirement leaving some clean up to ensure it works with the Content Submission Guidelines (http://www.wolflair.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Realm-Works-Content-Sharing-Guidelines.pdf).

Dr_Automaton
February 8th, 2017, 05:08 AM
I've been buying WOTC product since back when it was TSR and own hundreds of their books.

(WotC was never TSR. TSR went belly up back in the late '90s, and WotC used its M:TG money to buy it and get in on those sweet, sweet IPs)

Lanmalchior
February 8th, 2017, 06:34 AM
Wow, can't post anything on the Internet without someone trying to point out what was wrong about what you said.

The whole point was that I've been buying most of the D&D products back when they were called D&D and then AD&D and then back to D&D. Back when TSR published them, maybe not when it was called Tactical Strategic Review, but it's been a long time.

And TSR was part of WOTC for like 2 years as WOTC did buy TSR, and still used the TSR name until I think 3rd edition came out.

The TSR nearly bankrupting themselves twice is an interesting tie in, though. Both times that happened they cared more about putting out more new product then supporting what the players really wanted.

And WOTC hasn't been very good at putting out anything electronic in support of D&D. They could of really expanded and monopolized the electronic side of things years ago, but damn they keep blowing it. My experience with their electronic D&D support has been so bad that if they put out something now I wouldn't even look at it, unless a third party was releasing it. You can pretty much guarantee it would never be finished, supported or work right.

MNBlockHead
February 8th, 2017, 06:49 AM
@Lanmalcior

Yet WoTC seems to do well with the MTG digital products. With new leadership under Chris Cocks, who has experience in the video-game industry, and his recent announcement of a new digital games studio, I have a small glimmer of hope that they will make smarter decisions.

Licensing their content to the various VTT providers was also a hopeful development.

Toblakai
February 8th, 2017, 06:55 AM
The cost is to be expected.

There might only be 30% market share according to the survey results but 5e is the fantasy rpg beast in the market currently and I would be shocked if there is not a plan to tap into that. According to the The Orr Group Industry Report: Q1 2016 D&D 5e accounts for 35.44% of games being played on Roll20. Pathfinder is trailing behind that with 18.77%.

I won't be surprised, it wont shock me... it will disappoint me.

I'd love to know if there is a difference between the commercial content and our content. Like seriously... why can't we give you the SRD? This would take away the data load requirement leaving some clean up to ensure it works with the Content Submission Guidelines (http://www.wolflair.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Realm-Works-Content-Sharing-Guidelines.pdf).

The problem here is IMO, all on WoTC. I suspect that if Hasbro had never bought WoTC, we would see a company a lot like Paizo. Instead we have this old stodgy corporation afraid of it's own digital shadow. Unwilling to enter the modern age.

daplunk
February 8th, 2017, 09:03 AM
Specifically for this case I disagree.

The Srd has been available now for over a year. There are plenty of very successful 5e 3rd party products already on the market sold by companies that LW are already working with.

If there is no 5e content at launch then that will be because LW made a decision.

If there is no official Wotc content at launch then that I agree will have little to do with LW.

daplunk
February 8th, 2017, 09:07 AM
New report out yesterday shows d&d has surged ahead even further.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?3834-The-Orr-Groups-Latest-Stats-D-D-Up-2-Pathfinder-Holds-Steady-Apocalypse-World-Star-Wars-Gain-Ground

I know this doesn't necessarily represent the RW crowd. But if RW user base is primarily PF players then this certainly shows a gap in RWs offering and an opportunity to attract a bigger player base.

gaffneyks
February 8th, 2017, 11:37 AM
New report out yesterday shows d&d has surged ahead even further.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?3834-The-Orr-Groups-Latest-Stats-D-D-Up-2-Pathfinder-Holds-Steady-Apocalypse-World-Star-Wars-Gain-Ground

I know this doesn't necessarily represent the RW crowd. But if RW user base is primarily PF players then this certainly shows a gap in RWs offering and an opportunity to attract a bigger player base.

This survey is for Roll20. A virtual tabletop that sells official WOTC content.

This does show that WOTC will allow other companies to sell digital versions of their products. And that people will buy them. WOTC also has partnered with a video game company to put out a Sword Coast video game and 2 MMOs. We seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the problem with WOTC Content in Realm works is due WOTC. If they were so draconian, why would they partner with all these other companies?

It seems that for some reason that LWD does not want to or cannot reach an agreement to partner with WOTC.

Hence they have decided to focus on Pathfinder for the Content Market, which would make sense if the majority of their users are Pathfinder players.

I think it is a mistake to ignore 5th edition, but that is their call.

When I go play in the D and D Adventures league tonight I will tell the DMs who wanted to know what i though about Realm Works after purchasing it, that at this time i would not recommend Realm Works to anyone due to the fact that LWD stated that 5e content is not a high priority and none will be released when the Content Market goes live and that it will be in the far future before they have any official WOTC content for sale in the Content Market.

Even if they could not provide WOTC adventure modules, you would think they would come out with something in the content market that allows us to buy the Monster Manual or Players handbook for the mechanics reference or maybe provide Forgotten Realms, Eberron or Greyhawk settings for the Realm Works World Almanac. They should have been able to come to an agreement with WOTC on that at the very least.

As someone stated on another thread, all we can do is vote with our wallet.

I had just assumed, incorrectly, that Realm Works would have the same type of D an D content that Fantasy Grounds has, so I had saved up $300 figuring I could just buy a WOTC bundle for Realm Works and it should be priced similar to the Fantasy Grounds WOTC bundle.

I am an idiot for thinking that.

Now I just need to decide if I want to

1) Keep Realm Works, try to get the 2 groups I DM to go Pathfinder and get to use the Content Market.
2) UnInstall Realm Works, give my money to Fantasy Grounds or Roll20 and keep playing 5E.
3) Keep Realm Works, spend hours entering everything by hand for 5e, and let my cloud membership expire since i will not need it without the Content Market.

Not really the options I wanted, but it is what it is.

daplunk
February 8th, 2017, 11:54 AM
Personally I don't think the discussions are not happening or not going to happen.

I just think its going to take longer than we all want.

It's one of those things I would have fought to have ready for launch because it would have been an explosion of hype.

Then again, perhaps that's the exact reason it has not happened. Perhaps the hype is being delayed until confidence in the tool and new functions is there?

BJ
February 8th, 2017, 12:23 PM
Personally I don't think the discussions are not happening or not going to happen.

I just think its going to take longer than we all want.



This is the more accurate statement. Sometimes talks like these just take longer than we all want. We have no concrete information at this time but we are working toward what we all want as best we can.

Mystic Lemur
February 8th, 2017, 08:44 PM
Any comment on why the 5e SRD is not going to be an initial offering? My guess would be that it was too "crunchy" for RW users, who seem to have a stated preferance for adventure content. However, I agree it would have been nice to have something to offer 5e GMs.

kbs666
February 9th, 2017, 03:58 AM
Any comment on why the 5e SRD is not going to be an initial offering? My guess would be that it was too "crunchy" for RW users, who seem to have a stated preferance for adventure content. However, I agree it would have been nice to have something to offer 5e GMs.
I don't think the SRD is something WotC sells, in any format. I would assume the SRD will be done by the community.

daplunk
February 9th, 2017, 04:03 AM
Given LWD did the SRD for HL I would suspect it's something they will do.

the_redbeard
February 9th, 2017, 01:54 PM
Given LWD did the SRD for HL I would suspect it's something they will do.

It would be nice to have confirmation of this one way or the other.

Dr_Automaton
February 9th, 2017, 02:06 PM
It's not formal confirmation, but wasn't the SRD listed in the priorities section of LWD's new 5E survey?

the_redbeard
February 9th, 2017, 06:47 PM
It's not formal confirmation, but wasn't the SRD listed in the priorities section of LWD's new 5E survey?

? Huh? I recall a Pathfinder survey but not a 5e one.

daplunk
February 9th, 2017, 06:52 PM
? Huh? I recall a Pathfinder survey but not a 5e one.

New survey is at the very bottom of this announcement (http://www.wolflair.com/blog/2017/02/06/realm-works-content-market/).

the_redbeard
February 10th, 2017, 01:05 PM
New survey is at the very bottom of this announcement (http://www.wolflair.com/blog/2017/02/06/realm-works-content-market/).

Thanksya

rob
February 10th, 2017, 11:09 PM
That's it? Focus on Pathfinder as usual. Nothing for 5th edition. You initial release is Pathfinder and some images?

Actually, the fact that we only mentioned Pathfinder content was a completely unintentional brainfart on our part. We've actually got an assortment of non-Pathfinder stuff that will be included in the initial launch, but the two items we chose for the non-Paizo section happened to also be Pathfinder. So that's just an honest oops on our part with the two we picked.

If you look all the way back to the Kickstarter, our focus has always extended to other game systems beyond Pathfinder. For example, we'll have Masks and Eureka from Engine Publishing in the initial CM launch - both amazing resources for ANY game system you happen to play. We'll have a little bit of Savage Worlds material. We're pursuing a variety of additional stuff, as well.

As for D&D5E, we will be supporting the SRD and an assortment of non-Wizards 5E products. However, the 5E stuff primarily won't be in the initial wave, so it won't be immediately available. [EDIT: We planned to do it as a focused follow-on wave. Given the reactions from folks, we may make some small adjustments.]

Food for thought: If we weren't planning to provide 5E support, there wouldn't have been any compelling reason for us to put the 5E game system structure into place, right? But we did include it. Just something to consider here. :)

And why make the 5th edition people wait for the import/export if they weren't even going to have anything in the content market they could purchase?

That was a completely unrelated matter that was explained in both the forums and release notes. Let's stay focused on what we will and won't be supporting in the CM. :)

I am beginning to think that you might not even have WOTC on board and if I want to run a Forgotten Realms campaign i will have to enter it all myself or just give up on using Realm Works.

We will not have official Wizards content in the initial CM launch, and I'm not sure how you drew that conclusion from anything we've ever said. There are a huge number of complexities in securing a license with Wizards and then bringing their products to market. At a minimum, there would be press releases about the license prior to anything being offered in the CM. If your priority is official D&D5E material, then we won't be able to provide that for at least a little while longer. Until we can provide official D&D5E material, the Forgotten Realms would need to be entered yourself. I'm sorry if that's not the news you were hoping to hear...

rob
February 10th, 2017, 11:28 PM
Are the images going to be just usable for Realm Works? Are they Royalty free ones? $5 for 10 images is high if they are not going to be Royalty free and usable only in Realm Works. You can go buy royalty free images for about that price or maybe a little bit more on several sites.

The images and maps will be for use within RW - not outside of it. RW's security will let users drop the artwork into any realm they want, but the artwork won't be extractable from RW for outside use.

There are definitely images and maps available for similar prices that are royalty-free for re-use. There are plenty of images and maps that are available for cheaper through various sites. I'm sure we'll provide a wide assortment of that material through the CM, given a little bit of time, but that's not our initial focus.

Quite a few exceptionally talented cartographers and artists never make their work available through sites like DTRPG. They feel that doing so immediately makes it easy for that art to be shared, and they don't want to enable that. Our goal is to bring the art/maps from some of these gifted folks to RW users.

Also, how are art/map packs going to be submitted to the Content Market?

We're assembling the initial set of art/map packs. All user submissions will go through the same process, whether it's art/map packs, a module, or a setting. I believe that BJ is still finalizing the official portal for this purpose, so the specifics are forthcoming.